About

The show began as a conversation between two friends who liked asking each other about their work. We started recording it on a kitchen table and have not moved much since.

Each episode is a single conversation, lightly edited and unhurried. We want guests to take their time and listeners to feel they are in the room.

We pay our guests, we credit the music and we publish a transcript for every episode.

The show is independent and supported by listeners. If you enjoy it, tell a friend. That is the best kind of support.